The construction works for the “New Popham Street” site has prompted significant concern about the construction of the college and its operation from representatives of the Narrow Marsh residents, but not its creation.
Points on the development are –
* Residents have lost a playing area (which I know was not allocated as such in any local plan) and a new play area was once promised by a Portfolio Holder when ward members were first consulted; I hope the college, residents and perhaps the Contemporary Gallery can work in partnership to meet some of the needs of residents, especially families with children;
* Assurances given over noise and working hours are adhered to much better that have been for the new road;
* The college has the potential to be a significant attraction for users of the buses (the once hoped for additional tram stop has been lost) and that proper emphasis should be placed on bus stops for existing services that run past the site and for others that might be created or re-directed to serve the site (perhaps on Canal Street).
The no. 11 service that serves The Meadows is once again under threat, because London Road congestion has increased and made the service less reliable and less attractive.
We need a new and dedicated tram route to serve the A52 east of West Bridgford, but at best, it is fifteen years away, as presumably is the Broadmarsh tram stop.
The buses need to succeed to relieve our roads. We need to support the buses.
Since the early seventies, Nottingham City Council has had a proud and effective record of putting buses first.
Today’s committee will no doubt be work at getting the proposed changes right for the buses.
My specific requests are –
– fundamentally, expressing clear views and ambition for the viability and effectiveness of bus services;
– at a basic, understanding fully the conditions by which the new bus station is deemed to have sufficient capacity;
– being ambitious for bus services infrastructure, supporting the buses serving the Broadmarsh, Canal Street and the city centre loop;
– taking extra care to use highways infrastructure to enforce against car drivers queueing in lanes used by public transport and other service vehicles.
Panelling off bus bays from waiting passengers offers advantages for customers and operators, but there seems little doubt that even with the use of customer information technology, the capacity offered is at the limit for the services previously using the station.
Planning committee should send a clear signal that space for the buses to allow passengers to interchange is an expectation.
The initiative ran from 2008-14 and a new panel (overseeing the award of grants from a similar intiative for the Carrington Street area) visited to learn what can be done, and done well.
TO BE WRITTEN UP.
Broadmarsh car park and bus station was the main item.
The car park does now need to be re-done, and for some time of course, the expectation was that it would be demolished. Difficult to re-decorate a sixties concrete car park, and the use of corporate greens and greys in the proposed design is bold. The use of glass fins creates the impression of a solid wall from an angle whilst retaining gaps for light and air. A significant concern is ensuring proper access to the bus station, and to neighbouring streets from those who’ll use four new (mainly NCT) bus stands for Canal Street.
The latest version of the Local Plan and its progress through public consultation was considered. Lots of points were raised at Area 8 committee only a week before, but all that consultation and it can be trumped by things like free schools being given free reign, such as off Riverside Way in The Meadows.
Wondering where the sudden leap in visits to this web-site was coming from – of course – it’s skyscrapers.com. I should have guessed earlier.
4660 posts on a thread on the Broadmarsh renewal that goes back to 2007. Respect.
Seems many of their readers will not be pleased with the news that planning permission has been granted, but there’s a range of points to make:
a) a previous GBP750m scheme envisaged something like the biggest shopping precinct in Europe (I need to double-check the hyperbole – but it was huge); and it didn’t happen;
b) there is a change in the mix, with a new cinema with co-existing restaurants a new and significant feature; and previous reports show there is a demand to be met;
c) despite some remarks, there is an intent to deliver this scheme, and in 2018;
d) the Planning committee has to assess what is presented with, and the planning guidance is becoming even more pro-developer.
The elements of the scheme, some of which were celebrated at the committee, are –
1. a lighter brighter wider passage from Collin Street to Listergate;
2. a new entrance from Middle Hill that will most probably serve a future tram stop and a new tertiary college campus; with a dramatic cinema complex running around Collin Street;
3. a new Drury Walk, on the old line of Drury Hill, acting as an extension to the successful Bridlesmith Gate, with new shops that evoke that street’s architecture.
The risks of the new design were understood by officers and Councillors –
1. despite being enclosed and keeping the overhead services bridge, the glazing and light has been increased and the shop fronts will have outdoor material frontages; we need to check how doors and entrances will actually work;
2. the new entrance was moved south and external materials and overall profiles re-visited;
3. the notion of the Drury Walk being pastiche was checked and the designs refined; not sure the etched concrete feature couldn’t be improved.
The broader problems that remain are –
i) it’s hard to bring pedestrianisation of Collin Street, the new tram stop and the new college campus at the same time as the centre renewal, and some of the centre re-design might be different once Collin Street is made car-free;
ii) once there is no new second access into the centre (opposite the car park), the “wall” that is such a challenge to Nottingham remains; worse the length of the cinema puts the emphasis on Collin Street activity to introduce the features that might break the “wall” up;
iii) we’d like the Arndale car park to not be something that blocks the view of the Castle; bill – GBP35m? and who’d pay?
iv) Collin Street may well become a 300m by 22m public space, although the planned renewal of the Broadmarsh car park should only help.
I hope this helps Skyscraper readers.
Finally, I was concerned that whilst other streets between the railway station and Old Market Square are 18m or so wide (Carrington Street, Listergate, Albert Street, Wheelergate), the link between Listergate Square and Collin Street is 9 metres wide (the same as Broad Walk) and asked for it to be wider to support the flow of pedestrians and others; but I lost.
Previous reading available.
Some strong criticisms coming my way in advance of the Planning commmittee meeting to review Intu’s planning application for a renewal of the Broadmarsh shopping centre.
Because, as the correspondent shows, it does not seek to meet the vision once sought, of a wide avenue running from Carrington Street, across Collin Street, through Listergate and Albert Street before Wheelergate and then Old Market Square (ref. 2002 development brief).
Not an open street, instead enclosed and with a road services bridge still running over it.
And still a long wall along Collin Street.
The history of the planning application can be found on the council web-site – http://committee.nottinghamcity.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=249&MId=4883
and the planning application can be found at –
using the search code –
The report rebuts some of the criticisms made in the tweets featured, but you have to dig to find the graphics that show the significant changes to Collin Street and to Middle Hill in particular.
The cost of the development is (from memory) one-fifth of the original cost, although the future ambition for the Victoria Centre has increased.
The development is debated on the Nottingham Post web-site – http://www.nottinghampost.com/Redevelopment-plans-Broadmarsh-green-light-week/story-26672237-detail/story.html
Opinions on the application should at this late stage be e-mailed to – firstname.lastname@example.org
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